honeywell wv8840b1109 manual honeywell wv8840b1109 manual Pmi reliance supply electric power partcrib please. Both times there was VERY LITTLE sludge in the bottom of the water heater. The single wire to the rectangular connector just on the left bottom side is the lead to the pilot ignitor so if thats taken off, please remember to re-attach it. That SHOULD simply cause the heat source to have to stay on longer to heat water, not get the water too hot; 3. This Honeywell gas control has been intermittent every few months, but i was always able to restart until this week. F Im so mad I want to shoot the prick who cornered the market on Honeywells crap. So I would recommend to you ( with Valve off the water heater and no gas applied, to test the pilot valve (left pin to (+))with the AA battery, and test the main valve (Right pin to (-)), and each individually should click. Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. Pilot is lit but the led will not blink red at all it, how to reset this valve. Although, it wouldnt hurt to turn the gas off at the water heater line by twisting the valve into the horizontal position. And Im paying $30 for a part I shouldnt be replacing? But they knew nothing about that. And everybody wonders why plumbers charge what they do. . Turned the dial to low and it started heating. Although, the first time I did it, I only let it sit for about a half hour like he did, and I still got the 4 blinks and it wouldnt light. Most others had it for from $200.00. I had a similar experience on a WV8840B1059 getting the 4 flashes. I received the new valve and noticed a few differences. About this product. At least then Ill have a stockpile when the water heater is out of warranty. As the days moved on, it continued happening more frequently and each time the red 5-flash error condition persisted longer and longer before resetting itself. Tried disconnecting the old board for an hour. I had the unit replaced. The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. But we know different, Sounds like a lot of us are having the some problem: Can you believe this crap! The cover on the Water Heaters gas valve is removed by a single flat head screw at the bottom. On Thursday plubmer came over to install the worthless Whirlpool 40 gallon piece of junk water heater. All models of, WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature, The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by, the standing pilot flame. worked for me. I completely drained the tank and had a little sediment, not much since I have a whole house filter on the incoming supply. There have been several of us who have successfully brought this Honeywell water heater controller back to life. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], Young Rey wants to return the amulet to the Blue Wizard, but she's not easy to find! Its two pins go through the board. blue light 65 . Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. My tank is fed solar preheated water, and so far, that water has been warm enough that the main propane burner has never fired with the thermostat set to LOW, so I was just curious. Was sent a new one with a bad (stuck) push button sparker. Remove cover, put wraps on the two posts and replace cover. 17 product ratings. Those two must also be connected which ever method is selected to correct the problem. This is huge the most important post. The WT8840 water heater control from Resideo is designed for use in standing pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. Neither worked, the second board is now dead. I have another place with a Rheem Propane Tankless where the lowest normal setting is 100F. Mine quit working last Wednesday (Christmas Eve), with a house full of company. I think this Honeywell valve is pretty flakey. This piece of junk is only 13 months old. This will supply current to the main valve and the main valve will open. Turn the knob to 9 or 10 oclock- since your controller is faulted, nothing should happen. After trying multiple things mentioned here I finally unplugged the wires to the board only, tried to ignite then left it for a while and then plugged it in and it lit! The valve location is high enough on the tank that sediment likely wont interfere with its temperature sensing ability; 2. Sears is charging $181.64. I found instructions for how to reset the status light by turning the dial to off for five minutes, but that no longer works. The thing is less then a week old!! So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Ive been keeping an eye on the heater ever since installing, so I was able to notice this. Thanks all and internet! Direct Replacement: Gas Control Valve Kit (Natural Gas) Brand: AO Smith SKU: 100112336 ( 70) In Stock Get 297 Fri, Mar 3 Order by today, receive 297 by Friday VIEW REPLACEMENT Product Highlights - Natural Gas Description - YOU are a SUPER GENIUS! Is it flashing at you? Tug gently, away from the board, to unplug the plug. Any way, the pilot fired up rather quickly and flashed one time every three seconds! Bear with me guys, but Ive been whacked in the mellon for over 16 years, and am blessed that I can actually type, and am a little bit mechanically inclineda little. This is a picture of what it looks like with all the wires attached and the actual valve pins in the V formation (on the right side of the picture). $30 plus tax and I will roll up my sleeves and attempt to do this-I CAN DO THIS (I think) In the mean time I will be stinky at work and my hair will serve as grease for deep frying. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! This should at least get you hot water and time to get another controller from like Amazon. The new gas valve arrived and after inspecting it I see they redesigned the probe that sets the 4 flash code with a stainless shield. They dont want to send any more parts until I pay someone to come look at it. My water heater is still working fine. (I realize this is way after the fact but just adding some personal experience) Basically, the minerals heat less efficiently than the water, so the water has to get hotter than necessary. I just duplicated the steps that Charles on 29 July, 2014 took. CS8840 pilot assemblies are designed for use with this control. The pilot light alone is keeping the solar water warm all night at about 120F. Troubleshooting (just to make sure it wasnt the thermal switch or something) I took the board only out of the new valve they sent and put it on there. Had a 7 blinking light. Thank you for posting this ! At this point the flashing light went to the Heartbeat flash (call for heat), the exhaust flap opened and the ignitor lit the burner. water heater $500-$800, pro lic installer $400 $30-$$60 shipping cost for Valve. On my initial contact with their tech support, they asked that I verify the gas pressure coming into the heater ( spec range is 5.5 10.5 inches water column). It is . If not, you can still try the MFR, but a web search for honeywell water heater valve also turned up several vendors. Gently wiggle out the housing. Interestingly though, I tried this method two times and each time it didnt appear to have worked as I continued to receive a 4 flash fault code. THANK YOU! I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). I tried to call Honeywell just to ask and they wont give me any info because I didnt have the model number on me. I have a water heater only 13 months old and it is not working. Resetting the #$%@!! I cant believe they sent me a dud. The two 10 inch jumpers wrapped around the left and right pins was the method that worked for me. As he indicated, YOU DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK! Called Whirlpool, got the run-around everyone else is getting, called a few plumbers who were all in the $150+/hour. Some people said touching the 2 top posts and you said top right and bottom one. terminals that eliminate the need to splice and crimp wire, elliptical mounting holes, a large wiring channel that provides plenty of room to route wires and a convenient hinged case cover, our eas. I was getting the 8-3 flashing code which said to replace the Gas Control Valve. Everything else worked as previously described. I had the four blink Water too hot issue. Its a Reliant water heater, but at Menards. One note, since I did not have any clip leads I just used a rubber band to hold two pieces of speaker wire to a AA battery and held the wires on the pins with my index fingers. I think the Board discharged and thus reset the memory allowing it to operate again. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. The wt8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. As for Kenmore and Sears they would send a replacement part our for $185.00 and 2-5 days delivery or since the part is under warranty I could pay $79.00 and wait for a service appointment, then wait for the replacement part to be shipped for me to install. Well, I am having issues again and think I may have just screwed myself. this will also help the starter get a good ground to make a proper spark. It lights easily, but wont stay lit. If it reads less than 12 volts, you may need to replace your gas valve or controller. But I just wanted to confirm is there no way to reset the 4 blink code for a newer, white light, unit? I have a GE water heater with a blower motor on top. free! If it finds a fault, it will shutdown. 3: Snap the cover back onto the heater (so you can light the pilot-light). Thanks alot guys got mine up and running as well after taking the electronic crap out. Other suggestions? I suspect it is modified by Honeywell to be less sensitive to the issue because of complaints. I tried the simple unplug and reset for 10 minutes and plug back in it worked awesome. After less than 4 yrs of having the Whirlpool water heater, I got 4 flashes. This is the fourth time in 3 years the control has died. David Boone-you are a godsend. Thanks for at least giving me some temporary hope (how to reset the white button) on my stubborn heater and for making me smile while you did it. Good to know! my light is not blinking the pilot will light but the burner wont come on so i called whirlpool; and they said i had on warranty as we had stated on the warranty that we put it in the bathroom the heater is just now 3 years old,,, so i told her that it was not in the bathroom it was outside and that it had been installed in a shed that got storm damaged so we had to remove the shed and that my husband being 70 had had some medical issues and he had not been able to get the new shed over it but that had put a small cover around it but that wasnt real worried about the warranty i just want to fix it. I got my first shower in after 2 days. No, they want to sell you the whole valve, of course. Use a flat tip screwdriver and remove the housing by putting the blade into the two top tabs and depressing slightly. This crap adds $15,000+ to our new automobiles. An honorable mention here needs to go to Bob Robeson, who posted here as well, but it was his original post I found on waterheatertimer.org that set me onto a pathway of searching for another option after I was thoroughly disgusted with Sears/Kenmore Service, which would be more accurately described as Sales based on their approach to my concern. The Wt8840 Series Is The Water Heater Control For Trade Use to replace WV8840 valves on AO Smith water Heaters. Test all joints after install for leaks! Abner, I will handle your questions in my own order. One big question. The only material needed is one short jumper or piece of wire. My Honeywell WV8860B1309 failed after 2 years. Dead as a door knob. I didnt want the sealant to contaminate my water. I decided to try the How to un-fault a controller instructions above by David Boone as a first resort since it is easy to do. Put the cover back on and relight the pilotand set your heat temperature. I am now an expert at gas valves. Anyway, I bought that same heater (2 insulation) only a couple years ago. I thought you might want to add this info to your do-it-yourself site. Appreciate the guidance. No lights at all this time I couldnt even get it to do any lights when trying to light the pilot light. This will insure that the board will not be getting any electrostatic signals from the water heater. The pilot stays lit. This would upset me less if I had hot water meanwhile! contact customer service and see . Honeywell covered the replacement unit cost including shipping. HELP, what step to go. Wife called whirlpool Monday. Turns out painting and cleaning the basement tripped a code 7 flashes. Im keeping your method in my hip pocket, though, because it is much simpler. But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! 7:Snap the cover back on and light the pilot light again. I have to buy parts, shipping and all. Again, not a water heater expert, just saying based on my own experiences with the ones in my home. Not only that, but people return their old ones, and parts of them at least can probably be reused in new hundred-plus dollar valves. It is now running with no problems thank you for saving me 125$ plus shipping. The entire process from start to finish, including 2 stops to Lowes (once for tools, second for piping) and draining/refilling tank took over 2 hours. That signaled an error code for a fatal flaw in the water heater gas valve. My install is brand new, so there is no connection to any sediment buildup causing any malfunction state. Because of these differences, I would recommend NOT to only replace the board, but to replace everything! For sales or technical inquiries about our products please select the type of item (s) you are interested in from the pull down category list shown below. I agree but the cheapest I have found a valve is $199.00 plus shipping and tax. Found three capacitors (bigger one in the middle and the other two towards one of the corners, each is mainly silver with a black small/minor segment ) and shorted all three, replaced unit and relit the pilot light, but 4 flashes still the problem. NOTE: the 7-flash error seemed to last for quite awhile but eventually went to a normal single flash. I have always had it at one above on A. SUPER FIX< SUPER POST. First, do NOT buy any water heater with this type of controller (you can zoom in on the ad pic. Ernie. Can cause severe injury, death or property damage. ENJOY, BIG BIG thanks to you, it worked i fixed it. Randy- you da man. I must say the internet is a life saver for problems like these. The wires for the main burner valve solenoid had not broken. With 4 flashes, I unplugged the little cable for about 10 minutes and replugged in and got 7 flashes, but after another 10 minutes or so, it reverted to 1 flash and fired up. Why wont the cops shut Whirlpool down? Ive been reading through all this information, but other than learning the honeywell unit is a POS, I havent figured out my problem. I got pretty bitter there thinking about it. Honeywell has a scam going, I paid over $500,00 for my water heater and several hundred to have it installed, since day one I have had nothing but trouble with the Honeywell thermostat,gas valve. This may help all. Did you call Honeywell directly? The main gas valve will open and the burner will fire up (If is does not fire up, it means the pilot was not lit and you should disconnect the battery and start over when the gas clears). my brand new kenmore water heater has a weird smell coming from it, its not really a gas smell ,at least I dont think it is ,anyways my question is.. Is it supposed to smell the first few days or should I b worried? They have a manual shut off. Whirlpool sent me the upgraded replacement. I didnt use a battery and just jumped upper left and upper right pegs. 4. The next two times we dealt with it in in a very non-technical way. I saw that the light went out and the pilot had gone out. Although the majority on this thread are dealing with Whirlpool heaters and the infamous 4 flashes of death, my heater is a brand new Rheem, installed just a couple weeks ago. Rey and the Magic Amulet is a fantasy for younger readers. So since my controller is under warranty I will get a new one, may pay $10 for shipping or try and find one in town where they charge Honeywell directly, they gave me a special number to give to the store. Honeywell stinks & has caused lots of trouble for me. like this http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E. I tried this simple solution you provided and it worked awesome. The customer service representative explained to me that I needed a new Gas Valve and that if there was a store around me that had the Gas Valve, I could buy there (Menards, etc.) As many others have suggested, perhaps this is the event which started the fail process? Im an Innkeeper with few local options for help or assistance and will be following some great advice here. After reading all these comments I thought I would give it a shot. ~ diy-home-tips.vwx.info, Home Projects: Is It A Problem That I Have Two Of Each Color Wires On My Honeywell Thermostat?. Use a Multimeter to check the voltage drop across the valve. An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. They require that a service technician come to check it out out first for a charge of $95.00. If youre ever in Fort Wayne Indiana, Ill treat you to a steak dinner/sushi/(or your preference)! It is interesting to note that the water remained lukewarm with just the pilot lit over the past several days. Twist the phone wires together, the burner lit for about 20 seconds then shut off. Problem solved. detected. That doesnt sound to me like a physical problem with the valves connection to the gas line, so I see no reason the Frankenvalve operation wouldnt work here also. Correction, meant to say gas control valve, not thermostat. does this mean I have to replace the entire valve? Many, many thanks for the previous posters comments that led to this fairly simple fix. Holy Crap DB! Could sediment do this? Good luck, and be sure to write Whirlpool and tell them their tank design valve is a piece of crap. When I put it back together, it still flashed 4 lights and only the pilot would light. I had to do it again so Ill detail what seems to have worked form me. Its an excellent description, and if you dont already have the new valve, I suggest you try that first. + One for DBs repair procedure. faile, hot water thermostat is not cutting off at preset, My water heater has a Honeywell WV8840B1109 contro, My WV8840B1109 flashes a "High Temp Shutdown" code, where do I hook up my vent controls on my new Hone, honeywell n40t91403 water heater not lighting, Can I get a manual for a Honeywell product #WV8840, pilot light blink 4 times every 3 seconds says ove, The pilot light went out and we gave not been able, Gas is shooting out of the hotwater thermostate, to connect hot water heaters with Honeywell themos, Copyright 2020 Inmar-OIQ, LLC All Rights Reserved. Thank you! This time I left the knob in the pilot position for 10 minutes. I did read here that a service man said to not go above hot setting. The later version has a board-edge trace for accepting another type of slip-on connector. I removed the circuit board as you expanded. I have 4 blinking lights. It arrived today within 24 hours. This one broke after less that 1 year. Be sure to get the Yellow gas rated teflon tape and/or no. The newer ones have been Fixed so they will not reset. It Is Designed For Use In Standing Pilot Applications Using An Immersion Well For Water Temperature Sensing. After going through this ordeal, I had the pretty much the same experience as ColdShowerMan. First off, thank you for this article and thread. Still working after these few months? Dont take this for granted, make sure you do your part of manufacturers suggested periodic maintenance such as tank drainage, Anode rod inspection, etc to prevent future faults. 2. If so, I want him shot. Thanks to all the posts here!!! 5. Includes an integrated NTC temperature sensor. Unscrew one screw at the bottom of the gas valve. Basically the Honeywell Electronic Gas Water Heater Controllers are crap (so far). Looking at the V of the Valve body pins, the left top pin is the pilot valve. Now the light changed from flashing 4 times to flashing 7 times. As a side note, the light on the new valve is white. About to enter the fray and attempt the 4-blink DIY fix solution. Once you have the pilot lit and the pilot valve on, (faint click can be heard) all that is necessary to open the main valve is to jump (connect) the top left pin to the top right pin. Apparently cutting the power and going through the high-low setting twice is a reset procedure. i called whirlpool(1877-817-6750), they are sending me the valve free of charge, but its gonna take a couple days to get here. Since waaaay too many folks have experienced this failure, and since it seems to be electronics related, and since Honeywell is sending out replacements willy nilly and asking for return of the defective valves, I suggest that the true culprit may be that some bonehead just programmed the software at too low a critical temperature. Probably had sediment on bottom and overworked it. I will never by anything that has anything Honeywell on it again. Important to note, new wires were different colors! then buying parts, or paying for those appreciated plumbersAll help, is appreciated! Move the control to Hot and the Water Heater main burner should come on. -thanks. I have 2 bad Gas valves that i tried this on. Could only see me in the eveningReading about what you guys have done. detected: When this happens after the four flashes, it seems like this is saying something like, There has been a fault detected, and there is no fault any more. In other words, there was a fault and it went away. Wish you had shown a pic of the screwdriver touching the 2 posts. Cold water for 3 days in winter. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/ The bottom pin is ground ((-) on the battery)Connect the (-) negative of the battery there with a clip lead. Thanks for the info. i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. To begin, address the old gas valve. Whirlpool send me a new igniter/flame sensor and it does the same thing. Got the ominous 4 flash a couple days ago after turning heat up too high. Hey just wanted to say a BIG thank you to you guys for the reboot reset tips the jumper wire to all points worked best for me! When the circuit board in the gas valve detects the water-too-hot situation, it writes something into static memory in one of its chips, and the valve will never work again unless you can manage to reset it as described below. Product Support. Let people know on FB and other places that these tanks are equipped with a flawed Gas Control Valve. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. It is a Honeywell Reliance 9007884 Series 300. Having been working with systems at this level for nearly all my life I will say it looks like the micro-code in the controller goes away and hides when it gets that dreaded 4 code. Pull the black clips on the red and white wires straight outwards to unplug them. Thanks that was a big help and a $$ saver. I installed the new valve and cleaned up the mess. With products ranging from thermostats to air purifiers, alarms and awareness to water management systems, even energy management opportunities, Resideo goes beyond installation to integration of holistic, whole-home solutions. Thanks to this thread and bigger thanks to David Boone and the follow on info from CrankyTenants, after 10+ days without hot water and zero expense my water heater is now performing as intended again. This worked well. This seems like a part that needs to be recalled and a Class Action Lawsuit filed. Thanks guys!!! 5. There is a thermo-breaker in series with the thermopile attached to the plate opposite the sight window that may need to be reset or could be bad just another thought. this makes it quite easy to press the starter. Within a couple minutes it reverted to 1 flash, and is working fine. Thank you Tyler and all the great contributors on this thread. In the meantime I figured the shutoff valve to the WH was not working then started to leak! When the pilot is lit, it will only glow blue, and not look this intense. Whenthisbabyhits88mphYourgonnaseesomeseriousShit, http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14153292543/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14129889951/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946540277/, http://hometips.me/Mar/How-to-test-and-replace-Honeywell-gas-control-valve.pdf, https://www.flickr.com/photos/86570218@N06/17486404251, Home Tips: How Do I Remove A Stubborn Element From A Water Heater?. I put the cover back on and the light flashed 7 times as I put the heat dial to hot. reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! Now I have two fail in 27 months. My installation uses a tempering valve to keep water to the home closer to 110F no matter what the solar temperature is (which can be up to ~140F in summers). As info only for the less mechanical people out there, if you lay down on your back and look through the sight glass window, it makes lighting your pilot very easy. After reassembly and firing up the pilot there was a 4 code and a 5 code. Do this at your own risk, your mileage may vary. Then This year the pilot went out and I tried to re-light by pressing the red knob pointed at PILOT and pressing the square igniter button. Last year I had the blinks. Intelligent designers would program a fault reset capability after the water temperature drops to a safe point, like say 170 degrees. Great just what I needed, obviously the plumber who installed the WH did not change the 30 yr old shut off valve at the same time! My background issue: The heater would simply stop working every once in a while, with no lights flashing whatsoever. Miller 3/4" Grip. I touched the two top ones. 8: Once the status is blinking, set the temperature to desired level. The Jaccuzi is available at Lowes. I will now start flushing sediment every quarter instead of annually. The government mandates all this crap that fails! This house is on city water with a water-softener it shouldnt need flushing very often. Followed your procedure to a T. I called GE because Honeywell said to. Forgot to add one more important bit of informationI do not have any error codes, the red light blinks for standby mode and shows a heartbeat while the pilot light is on and continues despite the burner failing to ignite. DO NOT buy a water heater from Lowes. It is obvious that they are making a killing on money selling this to just about every water heater brand out there. smith), the gas valve went bad so I had to replace it. The instructions are short, but they have very helpful tips and information. At least it works again and Ill have the replacement ready if it ever fails again. Most Honeywell water heaters with electric gas valves need just 12 volts for the valve to work. But, the light on the control never starts flashing. Speaker wire. Thanks forcreating this site! New controller on the way but hot water is now flowing. Flushing the tank regularly prevents many problems. Still four flashes. They said there was no way to re-set the board. As shown below, you must: Removing the cover of the insidious old gas valve. Also remove heat sensor to check possible problem, no issue. In particular, if you havent drained the sediment off the bottom of the tank, do that first. This changes to red flash code when there is an abnormal condition. This is the second time Ive had to replace the valve. Just one stinking notch! My Kenmore water heater is controlled by the Honeywell Gas Valve (part # 9007884), which contains the WV8840 Communication Port. Think Ill leave my old one on till it goes out again then replace with new one. This is an excellent solution. The screw on the back of the control board is a Torx T-15 size. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. I released the pilot knob and advanced the setting to HOT and the main burner came on.. Yay. That happened (I think) because I turned the heat dial all the way up. controller). Hi I have a Honeywell gas valve and the pilot button popped off. TOUGH! Voltage Maximum: 850 mV dc, open circuit. burners are on. Cheers. I called Whirlpool again, they agreed to ship a new replacement for $30 shipment again! Did the reset and got a replacement valve on the way.
