But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. The team also uncovered a book that had once belonged to Muriel but was found in a Carmarthen charity shop. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. On this podcast episode, we cover the unsolved cold case of Muriel Drinkwater. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. Great questions! [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . Hi James. Learn more about managing a memorial . Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Her mother later went to the village to look for her when she did not return home; more than a dozen men from the area began a search. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. Neil Milkins. Norah Irene Bartlett. Harries bludgeoned two of his relatives to death with a hammer when they wouldn't let him borrow their car. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! Neil. Just before she entered the woods she looked up to see the farm in the distance. And I also think there are likely more victims. Request number 772/21. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. "I found the original clothing," he said. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. On 28 June 2021, I sent the following Freedom of Information Request to South Wales Police. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. "That sounds pompous, but I knew that really he was a simpleton, but I didn't detect any menace in him.". . I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. Regards. taken from one of Jones many nieces or nephews in Wales would prove conclusively if Jones was or was not Muriels killer. ~ Christine. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. However, if it wasnt for Victor Penaluna and D.C. Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police I would have been none the wiser about the Muriel Drinkwater murder. 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Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Why? In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. The new B.B.C. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. Birth: 16 Jan 1878: We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Your email address will not be published. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Hi Neil. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. left on the coat was compared to D.N.A. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. . This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! What a big moment in this case! ", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. Up Next. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. sample from Harold Jones daughter. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. Victor said that the programme had made him suspicious as to whether Florences killer Harold Jones who had been released from a 20 year prison sentence in 1941 for the Abertillery murders was responsible for 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwaters death. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. Hi Neil "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. A brother, nephew, grandson. Regards. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. There was another murder in 1943. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. "South Wales Police has had considerable success with cold case reviews being one of the first forces in the country to set up a review team in 1999 to conduct cold case reviews. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. 2023 BBC. Interesting case Christine. Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. 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Sadly though, this has proved not to be. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. Please let us know how it goes. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. We can also deduce it is a average male because he must have had enough power to dominate a 12 year old girl. Neil Milkins. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. Murder. He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. Read about our approach to external linking. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. I am making a F.O.I. 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